starting with the debt ceiling. 111 democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling. was this all about the no budget no pay provision are the democrats trying to stick it to the g.o.p. >> i think the latter and i think the more constitutionalists among them assuming that they are there that the amendment mattered more to them. but emotionally they probably wanted to make boehner pass this bill with his republicans. you know, in a way don't blame them for that. it's a harmless game. there are harmful games and harmless games. that was a relatively harmless one. obama also supported the passage of this, john, i think that if it had been in danger i think enough democrats would have switched over and voted yes. i think they were just trying to make a point. >> john: that makes me feel better. but let me ask you something the number one criticism from my republican friends has been so budget has been passed. why can't you democrats pass a budget how shameful. how should democrats respond to this? >> well, it is true that they haven't passed a budget. you can say that mat